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here you are on the floor of the michigan legislature. let's hear what you said. >> there will be blood. there will be repercussions. we know that we've got a hundred represented folks intended to walk in saying i'm not going to pay dues anymore. >> there will be blood. what are we to take from that? there will be blood. was that a premonition? were you suspecting it would get this violent? >> the full seven-minute video kind of leads up to this point to state that this is one of the most important and divisive issues that the michigan house of representatives could have taken up. i personally do not condone violence. i do not -- >> what did you mean by blood? i'm sorry. just tell me that word. what came to mind for you? >> what came to mind for me is if you don't learn from history, you're bound to repeat the mistakes of history. and in the speech that i gave, i talked about the battle of the overpass. we know when we have two sides ferociously battling on the right to work, the right to unionize, the polar of cysts on this issue, what a
here you are on the floor of the michigan legislature. let's hear what you said. >> there will be blood. there will be repercussions. we know that we've got a hundred represented folks intended to walk in saying i'm not going to pay dues anymore. >> there will be blood. what are we to take from that? there will be blood. was that a premonition? were you suspecting it would get this violent? >> the full seven-minute video kind of leads up to this point to state that this is one...
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in michigan, a state where the polls have been close lately, the president has a new 14-point lead over romney in a new ppp poll. 53-39. keep in mind ppp is an automated poll that tends to favor democrats. turning to the massachusetts senate race. a new poll gives warren a two-point lead over scott brown. that's not enough. we'll be right back. l get you. for you, life's about her. but your erectile dysfunction - that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medications, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sexual activity. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as this may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess with cialis. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long-te
in michigan, a state where the polls have been close lately, the president has a new 14-point lead over romney in a new ppp poll. 53-39. keep in mind ppp is an automated poll that tends to favor democrats. turning to the massachusetts senate race. a new poll gives warren a two-point lead over scott brown. that's not enough. we'll be right back. l get you. for you, life's about her. but your erectile dysfunction - that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you...
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how you win florida, ohio, michigan, virginia, arizona and then not get the nomination? >> i think it is really -- >> that's -- >> but winning the nomination doesn't just meaning convincing the majority of republican voters around the country that you are a good guy and ought tonight nominee it is convincing them that you ought to be the nominee over other republicans, right, so it just means beating in this case, rick santorum, newt gingrich and ron paul. >> not if you have heading into a convention where a candidate does not have enough delegates. then you have to beat the people you ran against but jeb bushes and the other people you talk b andy card last week, who is not a hip shooter, former white house chief of staff, who is a bush loyalist, andy card was saying publicly what about jeb bush as a possible nominee, given how bad this field is? >> the republicans will say what about the name bush? that's the -- >> steve, can somebody come in late? >> i think it's very difficult but what's true is that if the voters don't award the nomination to you, if you don't get e
how you win florida, ohio, michigan, virginia, arizona and then not get the nomination? >> i think it is really -- >> that's -- >> but winning the nomination doesn't just meaning convincing the majority of republican voters around the country that you are a good guy and ought tonight nominee it is convincing them that you ought to be the nominee over other republicans, right, so it just means beating in this case, rick santorum, newt gingrich and ron paul. >> not if you...
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he has legitimate michigan roots. >> he's a legitimate michigan guy. but rick santorum is ten points ahead. he's going to beat him in michigan. >> you think? >> i do think. democrats are going to come out. >> the spot that you showed before the attack on santorum, the way it started out, it said how did rick santorum actually vote? that was the key line. it's saying he's not who he says he is. >> a lot of the catholic democrats and independents in michigan are going to vote in the primary like they did in mccain. thank you steve mcmahon and todd harris. up next, conservatives find mitt romney disengaged. maybe it's because he can't talk their language. romney doesn't even like to talk to conservative commentators. why doesn't he want to hang out with the people who agree with him? this is "hardball" on msnbc. ♪ our machines help identify early stages of cancer and it's something that we're extremely proud of. you see someone who is saved because of this technology, you know that the things that you do in your life, matter. if i did have an opportunit
he has legitimate michigan roots. >> he's a legitimate michigan guy. but rick santorum is ten points ahead. he's going to beat him in michigan. >> you think? >> i do think. democrats are going to come out. >> the spot that you showed before the attack on santorum, the way it started out, it said how did rick santorum actually vote? that was the key line. it's saying he's not who he says he is. >> a lot of the catholic democrats and independents in michigan are...
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. >>> president obama wrapped up his three-day post state of the union swing in michigan today. he's polling strong in that state. let's go back to the score board. according to the new detroit free press poll, obama leads mitt romney by 8 points. the president inching his way towards 50% in that state. two months ago, his lead was smaller than that. [ female announcer ] this is not a prescription. this is mary. who has a million things to pick up each month on top of her prescriptions. thankfully, her walgreens pharmacist recommended a 3-month supply. now, mary gets 3 refills in one and for 3 months she's done. ask your pharmacist about a 90 day supply and how to save with the prescription savings club. individual memberships are just 5 dollars. enroll today. walgreens. there's a way to stay well. that is better than today. since 1894, ameriprise financial has been working hard for their clients' futures. never taking a bailout. helping generations achieve dreams. buy homes. put their kids through college. retire how they want to. ameriprise. the strength of america's largest f
. >>> president obama wrapped up his three-day post state of the union swing in michigan today. he's polling strong in that state. let's go back to the score board. according to the new detroit free press poll, obama leads mitt romney by 8 points. the president inching his way towards 50% in that state. two months ago, his lead was smaller than that. [ female announcer ] this is not a prescription. this is mary. who has a million things to pick up each month on top of her...
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two-thirds of michigan loves the idea of the bailout. among likely republican primary voters, those likely to vote next tuesday in this primary, less popular. i'd say. 50% say it's a bad idea. only 42%. >> you say only. i say still 42%. the load bailout is a loaded term. look at it more the other way. 42% of republican primary voters. >> okay. you're half full. >> i'm stunned at the fact that most republicans don't like the bailout of the auto industry in michigan. >> it's -- you can't say most when it's 50%. you are basically saying it's more of a one to one among republicans. >> explain that. even in michigan. >> part of it is the tea party, the government intervention. you still have a large chunk of the, i would say, my guess and i want to dig more into the numbers of who were supporters of this, it would be the older, second and third generation michiganders who are republicans but also have this sort of sentimental view of the auto industry. >> they don't have the libertarian view. in the head-to-head matchup the president leads ro
two-thirds of michigan loves the idea of the bailout. among likely republican primary voters, those likely to vote next tuesday in this primary, less popular. i'd say. 50% say it's a bad idea. only 42%. >> you say only. i say still 42%. the load bailout is a loaded term. look at it more the other way. 42% of republican primary voters. >> okay. you're half full. >> i'm stunned at the fact that most republicans don't like the bailout of the auto industry in michigan. >>...
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how does romney explain losing in michigan? how does a candidate who outspends a rival 2-1 explain rejection? and how does anyone explain losing to a candidate who makes himself so challenging to vote for as rick santorum? this may be as big a night as we have had in this political season. and we'll have it covered now until the dust settles. then rachel maddow and i will be joined for full coverage of the primaries. we begin our coverage tonight right now with "time" magazine's joe klein and howard fineman, also an msnbc political analyst. i want to start with you, joe. tonight, this thing about mitt romney. i want your general stance. i don't think he's a good politician. i don't think he has the human touch or bedside manner. he's not what we think of as a good politician. that's his problem. >> that's true. and today was an incredibly significant day in the history of mitt romney. he finally admitted that there was something that he wouldn't do to get this nomination. >> what's that? >> he would not set his hair on fire. yo
how does romney explain losing in michigan? how does a candidate who outspends a rival 2-1 explain rejection? and how does anyone explain losing to a candidate who makes himself so challenging to vote for as rick santorum? this may be as big a night as we have had in this political season. and we'll have it covered now until the dust settles. then rachel maddow and i will be joined for full coverage of the primaries. we begin our coverage tonight right now with "time" magazine's joe...
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the mayor of flint, michigan. what an iconic place to represent. >>> up next, the tea party is it headed for a beating in november? we're going to talk to a couple experts on the tea party. are they falling in power? this is "hardball" on msnbc. ♪ he was a 21st century global nomad ♪ ♪ home was an airport lounge and an ipad ♪ ♪ made sure his credit score did not go bad ♪ ♪ with a free-credit-score-dot-com ♪ ♪ app that he had ♪ downloaded it in the himalayas ♪ ♪ while meditating like a true playa ♪ ♪ now when he's surfing down in chile'a ♪ ♪ he can see when his score is in danger ♪ ♪ if you're a mobile type on the go ♪ ♪ i suggest you take a tip from my bro ♪ ♪ and download the app that lets you know ♪ ♪ at free-credit-score-dot-com now let's go. ♪ vo: offer applies with enrollment in freecreditscore.com™. >>> here's some news from jersey. the republican governor chris christie vetoed a measure to make same sex marriage legal in the state. the state passed the mea
the mayor of flint, michigan. what an iconic place to represent. >>> up next, the tea party is it headed for a beating in november? we're going to talk to a couple experts on the tea party. are they falling in power? this is "hardball" on msnbc. ♪ he was a 21st century global nomad ♪ ♪ home was an airport lounge and an ipad ♪ ♪ made sure his credit score did not go bad ♪ ♪ with a free-credit-score-dot-com ♪ ♪ app that he had ♪ downloaded it in the...
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that mitt romney might lose michigan. the whispers of drafting another candidate are getting thoughter. poll numbers are rising. the bad news, so are gas prices. could this be the issue republicans are looking for. and art imitates art. the first family as characters in the cosby show. if you missed it on "saturday night live" this weekend, we have it in the sideshow. >>> final lip, what happened 50 years ago today that got us headed to the moon. we begin with rick santorum. susan mil began joins us. let's look at this this. here's rick santorum speaking at the christian alliance luncheon on saturday. he criticized prenatal testing and the public education system in this country. let's listen. >> they require free prenatal testing in every insurance policy in america. why? because it saves money. why? because free prenatal testing ends up in more abortions and therefore, less care that has to be done. because we call the ranks of the disabled in our society. where did they come up with public education and education bu ra
that mitt romney might lose michigan. the whispers of drafting another candidate are getting thoughter. poll numbers are rising. the bad news, so are gas prices. could this be the issue republicans are looking for. and art imitates art. the first family as characters in the cosby show. if you missed it on "saturday night live" this weekend, we have it in the sideshow. >>> final lip, what happened 50 years ago today that got us headed to the moon. we begin with rick santorum....
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they want him to do well in michigan. michigan is an open primary. democrats can vote there. they are going to have to say that they are republicans at the polling place, but they can show up there and vote. if a couple thousand democrats show up in michigan, i think it could help. >> the country is dropping the debates like flies. the cnn debate is now dead down there. wasn't everyone like to see a m mano-e-mano between santorum and romney now? just the two of them. let them go at it. the cultural conservative and the detached presence of romney. >> reporters would like that and santorum would like that. i don't know if the nation is hoping for this kind of debate. maybe. >> are you working against me here? >> i think if newt does fade here -- >> the thing in austin powers where the seat disappears? we'd need santorum. we love this guy. >> but if newt does fade hard here, i think you'll see a one on one-type campaign where there will be pressure to do more debates because you'll have, like you said, a mano-e-mano-style campaign. whoever is losing is going to be pushing for f
they want him to do well in michigan. michigan is an open primary. democrats can vote there. they are going to have to say that they are republicans at the polling place, but they can show up there and vote. if a couple thousand democrats show up in michigan, i think it could help. >> the country is dropping the debates like flies. the cnn debate is now dead down there. wasn't everyone like to see a m mano-e-mano between santorum and romney now? just the two of them. let them go at it....
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he best well win in michigan. if he loses there and continues to fall in the polls, he may be dead meat. how do you do to turn that around if you're him now? >> one of the things, chris, when you look inside those numbers, he's losing ground with conservatives. he's losing ground with evangelicals and he's losing ground with independent voters. if you're the romney campaign, you're looking at data that says you have to disqualify rick santorum, which i think is easier said than done as you look ahead to michigan. but they are in a tough spot. the three losses had a huge impact in this race. i think the race is more wide open at this moment than it is at any time since the beginning of the race. and rick santorum is a lethal threat to the nomination, particularly if rick santorum is able to win in michigan. >> howard, is rick santorum the barack obama on the republican side, from the last time, the guy who is the true believer and anti-war guy running against the centrist, the hillary clinton? does he have a chance
he best well win in michigan. if he loses there and continues to fall in the polls, he may be dead meat. how do you do to turn that around if you're him now? >> one of the things, chris, when you look inside those numbers, he's losing ground with conservatives. he's losing ground with evangelicals and he's losing ground with independent voters. if you're the romney campaign, you're looking at data that says you have to disqualify rick santorum, which i think is easier said than done as...
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not santa barbara, not michigan, not all those homes he's claimed. just the one he's allowed to vote in. >> no doubt about it it. but massachusetts and his governorship in massachusetts, what he did there with health care reform is going to come back and haunt him, not just tonight but moving forward. the biggest for the conservative base has been for what's been revealed over the past week. an op ed he wrote for the "usa today." statements he made to human events back in 2006. a "meet the press" appearance back in 2009 where he very clearly called for a national individual mandate. the fact that mitt romney is going to put it away as he finds himself compromised on the right with the single issue that a lot of conservatives believe over the past two and a half years would define the 2012 race. that has now effectively been taken off the table. the obama team knows it and mitt romney's team know it is. so here we are, chris, tonight, we finally get to a point, i believe, where you have a long list of republican wanna bees starting with sarah palin an
not santa barbara, not michigan, not all those homes he's claimed. just the one he's allowed to vote in. >> no doubt about it it. but massachusetts and his governorship in massachusetts, what he did there with health care reform is going to come back and haunt him, not just tonight but moving forward. the biggest for the conservative base has been for what's been revealed over the past week. an op ed he wrote for the "usa today." statements he made to human events back in 2006....
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particularly, if you see it in michigan, romney losing michigan, it sends a very strong signal out there about not just electability, but about credibility. and i think newt asked the right question. how does mitt go to his donors the next morning and say, hey, i'm your guy. give me more money. everything becomes different. it's a game changer should that happen. >> so it's michigan next week. it's the big one. >> absolutely. what happens is you're looking at then jockeying for the strongest position to make the best argument to get the most delegates once you get to tampa. >> let's look at the new numbers coming in. in michigan, the ppp robo poll has romney gaining from last week's poll which was probably an outlier. now santorum still on top, 37% to romney's 33%. in arizona, what was thought of in arizona, what was thought of as a romney stronghold because of the large mormon population down there, romney has just a three-point lead over rick santorum. 36% to 33%. let me go to walter on this. the idea that santorum could be doing so well reminds me of buchanan where you can run well in
particularly, if you see it in michigan, romney losing michigan, it sends a very strong signal out there about not just electability, but about credibility. and i think newt asked the right question. how does mitt go to his donors the next morning and say, hey, i'm your guy. give me more money. everything becomes different. it's a game changer should that happen. >> so it's michigan next week. it's the big one. >> absolutely. what happens is you're looking at then jockeying for the...
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mitt romney has a tough sell to make in michigan. he has to convince voters that he opposed president obama's bailout in detroit while at the same time arguing that the bailout worked. because the president did exactly what romney said he suggested all along. here's romney taking a stab at that argument at wednesday night's debate. >> i put an ad in the paper and said absolutely not. these companies need to go through a managed bankruptcy. just like airlines have. just like other industries have. go through a managed bankruptcy. go through that managed bankruptcy and shed the access of cost that's been put on them. then if they need help coming out of bankruptcy, the government can get them back on their feet. >> just to prove he had the audience stacked out, they applauded the word bankruptcy. no audience in america applauds the word bankruptcy unless they were cued to do it by whips in the audience. steve rather in was the leaded a virus for president obama and john heilemann is an nbc political analyst. let's look at something you
mitt romney has a tough sell to make in michigan. he has to convince voters that he opposed president obama's bailout in detroit while at the same time arguing that the bailout worked. because the president did exactly what romney said he suggested all along. here's romney taking a stab at that argument at wednesday night's debate. >> i put an ad in the paper and said absolutely not. these companies need to go through a managed bankruptcy. just like airlines have. just like other...
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if the democrats hold on to wisconsin, michigan, illinois, is that enough? >> gone. >> you lose indiana and ohio. what about the rest? >> yeah. there's a conceivable pathway to the white house. >> wisconsin? or which one? >> i would probably say wisconsin. absolutely. wisconsin has been one of those states that has always been on the bubble. who is going to be able to go into wisconsin and make the case. a governor under siege. i think the governor is going to survive. >> i think you may be right. >> i think his numbers -- >> not because they like him but there's not a strong democrat. i think ed shultz could beat him. >> he's barely surviving a recall. >> no. i'm not going to that point. but what i am saying if he loses the recall, if there is, that will happen. >> you didn't answer my question. can ed shultz beat scott walker e? >> i would love to see that. he's the man. thank you eugene robinson and michael steele. you will vote for obama if he carries the midwest. how much of mitt romney is actually scripted verbatim when he tells the jokes about the kar
if the democrats hold on to wisconsin, michigan, illinois, is that enough? >> gone. >> you lose indiana and ohio. what about the rest? >> yeah. there's a conceivable pathway to the white house. >> wisconsin? or which one? >> i would probably say wisconsin. absolutely. wisconsin has been one of those states that has always been on the bubble. who is going to be able to go into wisconsin and make the case. a governor under siege. i think the governor is going to...
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he might win in michigan and minnesota. take a look at the polls out today on the states voting today. santorum leads with 33% of romney's 24%. gingrich and paul are close behind. in missouri, santorum leads again 45% to romney's 32%. paul far behind. romney is leading in colorado. it looks like the deal doesn't look done. >> no deal is done. the deal is not done for romney. the latest polls from gallop show him at 37%. there's a new reuters poll that shows him at 29%. in certain respects, mitt's run is going to be vivid. he's a bit like a giant hairball that the republican party cat is trying to cough up. they can't swallow it and they can't get rid of it. that's sort of the way he is. he's in front mathematically. but today is santorum's day. >> you know what a hairball smells like? go ahead. >> today is santorum's day. today is it. missouri is just a beauty pageant. >> it's a headline. >> it is a headline. because newt gingrich isn't playing in missouri, santorum has a one on one. >> he might get two out of three. >> and
he might win in michigan and minnesota. take a look at the polls out today on the states voting today. santorum leads with 33% of romney's 24%. gingrich and paul are close behind. in missouri, santorum leads again 45% to romney's 32%. paul far behind. romney is leading in colorado. it looks like the deal doesn't look done. >> no deal is done. the deal is not done for romney. the latest polls from gallop show him at 37%. there's a new reuters poll that shows him at 29%. in certain...
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you could see romney do what he did in michigan and ohio, sort of a narrow victory. but, chris this is deja vu all over again. remember in march and april and may in 2008, hillary won all the primaries and won some of them by staggeringly large margins. and, yet, obama kept piling up delegates and kept holding the delegate lead. >> but that's a tough shot against obama. obama who i, of course, was supporting on those days, you were supporting hillary, governor. we all know whose side we were on. honestly, i had a spirited campaign behind him, people who really believed in him. before you lodge that unfair metaphor there comparing them, do you really believe there is a similar amount of spirit and excitement behind mitt romney? >> not at all. not at all. but to be very practical and you said i was a practical politician, the math is the math. and romney won more delegates yesterday. >> you're loving the clintons goes beyond practicality. >> so that will give romney a big advantage. >> can i ask you one last question mr. big stuff? who is going to win i will snil. >> r
you could see romney do what he did in michigan and ohio, sort of a narrow victory. but, chris this is deja vu all over again. remember in march and april and may in 2008, hillary won all the primaries and won some of them by staggeringly large margins. and, yet, obama kept piling up delegates and kept holding the delegate lead. >> but that's a tough shot against obama. obama who i, of course, was supporting on those days, you were supporting hillary, governor. we all know whose side we...
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santorum has to win illinois, i would say, because he came close in michigan, he came close in ohio, he's got one last chance at a big state like that, a big midwestern state, santorum absolutely has to win it. i agree with chuck there will be -- if romney wins one of these state there's will be a lot of this talk but don't forget in the new york times poll yesterday, santorum is running ahead of romney, among republican likely voters. so it will take one more race after this and i think illinois will be it but if santorum can't win michigan, can't win ohio, he's got to win illinois. >> howard you're good at this, do you think cardinal george will endorse santorum in chicago? >> i don't think the cardinals are in the business of endorsing. >> they are pretty close. >> the bishops and the organized conservative wing of the catholic church of the united states is and i saw this in ohio, they obviously love santorum. i don't know if that is enough. >> we'll see. thank you, polls will be closed in alabama and mississippi at the top of the hour. we'll get the first numbers in a few minute
santorum has to win illinois, i would say, because he came close in michigan, he came close in ohio, he's got one last chance at a big state like that, a big midwestern state, santorum absolutely has to win it. i agree with chuck there will be -- if romney wins one of these state there's will be a lot of this talk but don't forget in the new york times poll yesterday, santorum is running ahead of romney, among republican likely voters. so it will take one more race after this and i think...
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now, later he decided to run for governor of michigan. and so you can imagine that having closed the factory and moved all the production to wisconsin was a very sensitive issue to him. for his campaign. and i recall at one parade where he was going down the streets, he was led by a band. and they had a high school bachbd that was leading each of the candidates. and his band did not know how to play the michigan fight song. it only knew how to play the wisconsin fight song. so every time they would start playing "on wisconsin, on wisconsin," my dad, political people would jump up and down and try to get them to stop because they didn't want people in michigan to be reminded that my dad had moved production to wisconsin. >> somebody said, can you tell us the music anecdote about shutting down an american factory and how that created political problems? nobody asked him for that. this is what he volunteered as his family to wisconsin. the funniest story he could think of to tell the people of wisconsin was the time his dad shut down a facto
now, later he decided to run for governor of michigan. and so you can imagine that having closed the factory and moved all the production to wisconsin was a very sensitive issue to him. for his campaign. and i recall at one parade where he was going down the streets, he was led by a band. and they had a high school bachbd that was leading each of the candidates. and his band did not know how to play the michigan fight song. it only knew how to play the wisconsin fight song. so every time they...
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if michigan goes down if santorum wins michigan he probably won't have a great super tuesday. >> let me go to my friend joan on this. looking across the aisle, across the middle politically, it is enjoyable isn't it, to watch this? >> it is very -- yes, it is very enjoyable. all of these candidates are doing president obama's work for him. so we can sit here and laugh. we also have a situation where i think 62% of republicans in a recent poll said they wish somebody else would get in. they'd like to have another candidate. so they're in trouble, chris, and we know it. i think what is really striking about this latest romney barrage, i have just taken it for granted that negative ads work and he bloodied up gingrich and he is going to do the same to santorum. if you look at these latest ads, i don't know. they're pretty weak tea. they've got that same voice of concern and doom. but, you know, earmarks and pork, like it or not, everybody has done it. hillary clinton, like it or not, is not as polarizing as nancy pelosi. he voted with her on a hot button issue. but there is something a
if michigan goes down if santorum wins michigan he probably won't have a great super tuesday. >> let me go to my friend joan on this. looking across the aisle, across the middle politically, it is enjoyable isn't it, to watch this? >> it is very -- yes, it is very enjoyable. all of these candidates are doing president obama's work for him. so we can sit here and laugh. we also have a situation where i think 62% of republicans in a recent poll said they wish somebody else would get...
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nevada, problematic, michigan problematic. that's already factored in. >> even losing all these races, he can hang in until march. >> he's got to figure out some way to do that financially in terms of free media strategy. what the answer to that is i don't know. newt is a master at getting free media. >> does your party still have -- i used to call it the white boys club. the governors that used to get together. how about the boys club. is there still a pack of them to get together in some club fd say, well, we're a party. we've got to clean this up and get rid of this newt guy. is there any party group that can -- >> no, because i think you've seen attempts at that at various stages where you may have some of the governors rallying around in particular, mitch daniels. but this is what's so exciting for me. this is all grassroots that's driving this right now. and it's great. >> but think about what we know about newt already. the three marriages. the ethics committee violations. every bad thing has been thrown at him and he's
nevada, problematic, michigan problematic. that's already factored in. >> even losing all these races, he can hang in until march. >> he's got to figure out some way to do that financially in terms of free media strategy. what the answer to that is i don't know. newt is a master at getting free media. >> does your party still have -- i used to call it the white boys club. the governors that used to get together. how about the boys club. is there still a pack of them to get...